Showing posts with label Bahamas Christian Council. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bahamas Christian Council. Show all posts

Saturday, October 20, 2012

The Looming Gambling Referendum: ... ...President of the Bahamas Christian Council (BCC), Dr Ranford Patterson has accused the government of failing to take a position on the issue of legalized gambling for Bahamians in The Bahamas... ...he felt it was because government members fear that the impending gambling referendum could fail

PM: Gambling Referendum Will Have Many Components



By Sasha Lightbourne
The Bahama Journal



The gambling referendum, which is expected to be held before the end of the year, will have many components to it, according to the prime minister.

Perry Christie told The Bahama Journal recently that he is considering a lottery component as well as casino regulations, which will all be part of the referendum when announced.

“I’m having detailed discussions with my advisors and we are doing this on all fronts with respect to improving and strengthening casino regulations and the kind of games they play and making us more competitive,” he said.

“At the same time we are focusing on the web operations as well. When I make the next communication it’s going to be a very serious one based on the concerns that my advisors have with respect to web operations especially if they are not regulated. I most certainly want the referendum to be held before the end of the year as well. I’m not changing that.”

Mr. Christie added, however, that he is concerned about the lottery component of the referendum.

“The only question I have is whether I have a working situation with the lottery,” he said.

“Is it feasible, given the size of our population and having to depend on the Americans, to do it because if it does that would mean they would take the money back to the United States. There is a compelling necessity though to do something about this issue and it will happen before 2013.”

President of the Bahamas Christian Council (BCC), Dr Ranford Patterson has accused the government of failing to take a position on the issue of gambling.

He said he felt it was because members fear that the impending gambling referendum could fail.

So far, the government has declined to publicly state a position on the matter.

All it has said is that the Bahamian people will be allowed free choice to vote for or against gambling.

Rev. Patterson has said, however, that in the lead up to voting, the BCC plans to clearly repeat its anti-gambling argument.

“The government needs to make a decision and state their case,” Rev Patterson said a few weeks ago.

“Let’s say this referendum is a disaster, who is going to take the responsibility for wasting taxpayer dollars and wasting time that could have been used on other more important things in this country. If this is such a major issue just do it.”

The BCC president said the government should also take note of the long term implications of gambling that could cause thousands of Bahamians’ regrets if the referendum did return more “yes” than “no” votes.

19 October 2012

Jones Bahamas


Saturday, March 5, 2011

It's high time we do away with the pompous, fatuous, and self-serving Bahamas Christian Council

Time to 'do away with' the Christian Council
By PACO NUNEZ
Tribune News Editor



The audacity of the Christian Council's demand that it be placed in charge of blessing the airport's new US departures terminal on Friday is a perfect example of why it's high time we do away with this pompous, fatuous, self-serving organisation.

I don't mean "do away with" in the sense of outlawing or forcibly disbanding it. The satisfaction of seeing the council subjected to its own tactics aside, no one can or should infringe upon it's members' right to associate.

What I do mean is that the silly masquerade in which the council poses as the nation's moral authority should be brought to an end once and for all. The Christian Council has no right - none whatsoever - to this self-imposed title.

Its officials are not elected by the public, nor appointed by the country's executive, and they do not represent the general public in any other capacity. Their authority does not extend beyond their own respective congregations - and even then is only on a voluntary basis.

And, despite their constant appeal to the "spiritual principles" mentioned in preamble of the Constitution, two of the architects of our independence, Governor General Sir Arthur Foulkes and George Smith, have already made it clear this was not meant to privilege any particular group, or even any particular religion.

In short, the council is nothing more than a private association of religious leaders and should be treated as such - no more, no less.

There is, therefore, no reason why this group should be allowed to tell our Immigration Department which foreign performing artists can entertain us, what films we are allowed to see, or whether it should be illegal for a man to rape his wife. And there is certainly no justification for its president Rev Patrick Paul feeling entitled to demand that he be the one to bless a public building like the new US departures terminal.

According to its mission statement, the Bahamas Christian Council was founded in 1948 to promote "understanding and trust" between churches, to "further Christ's mission of service by joint action" and to "witness for the Christian community in the Bahamas on matters of social or common concern."

The first two aims are more or less self-explanatory; the third less so, and is perhaps the source of the modern-day council's hugely inflated view of itself, which has been used by certain prominent members over the years to spread fear, reinforce personal prejudices and indulge petty jealousies.

If so, this relies on quite a twisted reading of the phrase. The intransitive verb "witness" means to give or serve as evidence of; to testify. In Christian terms, this refers to spreading the message of Christ's Eternal Kingdom.

The council seems to have dislodged this term from its original meaning, appointing itself the official advocate of a make-believe homogenous Christian community with regard to far more worldly "social or common" concerns.

But the council does a great deal more than just "witness" on behalf of its invented community of like-minded Christians.

Over the years, its officials have done all they can to burrow their way into the actual decision-making process, with an eye to accruing as much power as possible.

In the last few years alone, they have: demanded the final say on musical artists being granted entry to the country, approached the Immigration Department seeking to "form a partnership" in an effort to curb "social ills" and insisted that the government work more closely with churches.

They also submitted their own amendments to the proposed Marital Rape Act in an effort to maintain control over what happens in the bedrooms of married couples, and did their best to deny adult Bahamians the right to gamble their hard-earned money if they so chose.

Yet for all its self-importance, the council is also very good at playing the victim. According to a report published in the Bahama Journal on Friday, the uproar over the new terminal began after Rev Paul was first asked to bless the building, then informed by the Nassau Airport Development Company (NAD) that it had been advised to invite Catholic and Anglican clergymen to conduct the blessing instead.

The report said NAD's decision was described as "nothing more than elitism at its worst" by the council, which accused some denominations of constantly disrespecting "certain groups." Never mind that the Anglican Church, trusted with official state funerals, has at least some claim to the unofficial status of state religion of the Bahamas, whereas the denominations represented by the Christian Council, including Rev Paul's Assemblies of God, have none at all.

The council's stance is laughable, not only because the term "elitism" would much better describe its own rank presumption in meddling in other people's affairs, but also because according to the report, after "pressure conditions" - apparently a series of phone calls - were brought to bear on the Anglicans and Catholics, the council got its wish.

The hastily re-invited Rev Paul blessed the terminal at Friday night's ceremony before 1,800 invited guests.

But why does the Christian Council enjoy this kind of power in the absence of any plausible claim to it? Simply put, because it is perceived as having the ability to command the behaviour of a vast number of congregants at the polls or in other crucial circumstances.

This is the "We've got the numbers" version of might-makes-right; the manipulation of the beliefs of a large number of people in order to aggregate power in the hands of a few men - in such a way that there are always only a few of them, and they are almost always men.

I believe this kind of power is inimical to the kind of society we have in name, and the one we are trying to build in reality. The Bahamas is a parliamentary democracy, a system created in specific opposition to the far older, far more autocratic forms of power with which the Christian Council deserves to be categorised.

Furthermore, if there ever was a time we needed an organisation to "witness" for us, it has obviously long passed. This is now a country with a far higher concentration of churches than schools, in which everywhere you turn there is someone imploring you to return to religion "before it's too late". We have become a society of prayer breakfasts, prayer lunches, prayer dinners, prayer meetings; of memorial services, long services, annual services, commemorative services.

Witnessing has gone viral in the Bahamas. And yet our problems persist.

What we actually lack is concrete structural and policy ideas for how to fix our broken education system, revitalise our woeful public services, reform our corrupt electoral process and give our young people a chance to succeed.

Perhaps this is because too many of use continue to listen to a group of fear peddlers, who tell us we cannot trust ourselves to make decisions, who believe freedom of expression is a dangerous thing, and that religion is not about one's personal relationship with God, but rather a question of one's willingness to submit to their will.

The irony is that in reality, the Christian Council has no concrete power at all. They depend on supporters whose allegiance they can't really guarantee, particularly if it comes into conflict with political tribalism or self-interest. They only meddle because we let them.

If everyone told them to get lost when they came demanding special privileges, as they did with NAD, we would soon see how silly the emperors looked with no clothes on.

* What do you think?

pnunez@tribunemedia.net

February 28, 2011

Friday, December 10, 2010

BTC employees' battle with the government over 51 percent stake in Bahamas Telecommunications Company to Cable & Wireless

Are BTC employees in a losing battle with the government
thenassauguardian editorial


Employees of the Bahamas Telecommunications Company (BTC) went on the offensive on Tuesday, as a sign of their disagreement with government’s move to sign a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with Cable & Wireless in relation to the sale of a 51 percent stake in BTC. The protest action on Tuesday, in which BTC employees paraded around the company’s head office on JFK Drive, brought flashbacks of what happened when ZNS workers tried to fight government’s downsizing of the Broadcasting Corporation of The Bahamas.

Also familiar is BCPOU President Bernard Evans, who was unsuccessful in his fight for ZNS employees against the government. It seems strange that after losing that battle not so long ago, union members are still confident that Evans can get them the kind of results they seek.

Evans is the same and his fight is against the same foe to which he lost, the Government of The Bahamas. We saw how the ZNS fiasco turned out. Will this BTC fight be any different?

It should be noted though, that a significant difference in this fight is that President of the Bahamas Christian Council Rev. Patrick Paul, and newly-elected President of the National Congress of Trade Unions of The Bahamas Jennifer Isaacs-Dotson, have jumped on board with BTC from the get go.

This battle could turn out to be a much bigger fight for the government than ZNS was.

When it comes to BTC who knows what to expect? Reports suggest that Tuesday’s action was just the beginning of what could end up being a massive national strike involving various unions. Yesterday the BTC employees were at it again, this time with a motorcade through the streets of New Providence, and a mass rally at the Bahamas Communications and Public Officers Union Hall, at which representatives of various unions were on hand to give their support.

The prime minister stared down Bernard Evans, called his bluff and won a battle without even unholstering his gun during the ZNS fiasco. With Evans at the helm of the battle with BTC, Prime Minister Ingraham may be looking for history to repeat itself.

12/9/2010

thenassauguardian editorial

Saturday, December 4, 2010

Lottery in The Bahamas... games of chance...

The lottery and the church
thenassauguardian editorial



It seems that at least once a year the issue concerning a lottery in The Bahamas raises its head. Each time the subject comes up, it raises arguments among members of the public and puts up the dividing wall between the church and government. Yet, each year the subject comes up, the same arguments prevail and the same results are experienced.

Nothing happens and the subject dies down.

Of course the Christian Council continues to stand against the formation of a lottery, claiming that it would further sink this country into a mire of immorality.

With a high crime rate, an increase in sexually transmitted diseases, a high rate of high school drop outs, an ever increasing turn by many to alternative lifestyles and the constant Bahamian past time of “sweet hearting” one can only wonder if the country has not reached the bottom of the barrel of immorality.

In decades past, the church’s view was highly respected, which explains why every time the subject of a lottery came up and the church protested, it was pushed aside, without another thought.

Now, with some consideration being given to the idea, it proves that the respect which the church in The Bahamas once held is waning. With so much of its own dirty laundry being placed into the public light, the church no doubt has issues of its own.

But have we reached that point in our nation’s history where the voice of reason, justice and fair play is no longer being adhered to? If that is the case, then God help us.

Some claim that the reason many pastors are against the formation of a lottery is because they fear losing tithes and offerings to a gambling practice. But pastors, in taking their stand against the lottery, say they fear that it would destroy households, as husbands would then use their money to play the lottery in hopes of winning.

If the ratio of men to homes in this country is correct, then no doubt this argument is moot. To think that single mothers would take hard earned money to play the lottery instead of feeding and clothing their families goes beyond reason.

But it can certainly happen.

However, the truth is, those parents who are responsible without a lottery would continue to be responsible with a lottery.

After all, games of chance can be bought on just about every corner in the country.

Yet, only those who are willing to take that risk with those games of chance continue to do so.

Those who are not interested are not moved.

12/3/2010

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Wednesday, September 15, 2010

The Bahamas is in a national security crisis that’s growing - and the country’s longstanding drug and gang war has only exacerbated the problem

Drug Gangs At War
By IANTHIA SMITH



The country is in a national security crisis, according to the Chairman of the National Youth Council.

In fact, Pastor Dave Burrows said he is not sure if there is an end in sight.

"I think we have a national security crisis that’s growing," he said yesterday while appearing as a guest on Love 97’s daily talk show "Issues of the Day" with host Wendall Jones.

"I don’t see a solution in sight. I see us working in different avenues to try and contain it, but I don’t see a solution in sight."

With 66 homicides already on the books for 2010 and a spate of armed robberies, shootings, stabbings and drug busts still posing a problem, authorities are constantly seeking to allay fears with the reminder that the situation is under control.

But many Bahamians are inclined to agree with Pastor Burrows.

Pastor Burrows has worked tirelessly for years with the country’s youth in a bid to save many of them from the world of drugs, crime and murder at time.

The Bahamas Christian Council once called for the National Youth Service Restorative Programme for Boys to be expanded to include a cross-section of Bahamian youth.

But the programme has since been scrapped.

According to police officials, of the 76 males murdered in 2009, 25 of the victims were under the age of 25.

Fifty-seven males have been murdered so far this year. Police said of this figure, 21 of the victims were under the age of 25.

Echoing sentiments recently expressed by noted psychiatrist Dr. David Allen, Pastor Burrows believes the country’s longstanding drug and gang war has only exacerbated the problem.

"You have a lot of drug retaliation and the incentive to kill in the drug business is higher than in any other business," he said.

But while Pastor Burrows believes the country’s national security is being threatened by the criminal element, he does not place the blame squarely at the government’s feet.

"Basically, in order for society to change, values need to change. You can give a guy a job, but if he has the wrong value system he would still rob people," he said.

"You can develop all kinds of programmes, but if on the inside, people are corrupt or their pursuit is corrupt and they are engrained in negative pursuits, no matter where you place them you will probably still end up with the same results and I don’t see a lot of [change] when it comes to changing the value system. I think our value system is deteriorating rather than getting better."

September 14th, 2010

Thursday, May 27, 2010

Bahamas Christian Council applauds decision not to legalise the numbers business

Christian Council applauds decision not to legalise the numbers business
By ALISON LOWE
Tribune Staff Reporter
alowe@tribunemedia.net:


THE Bahamas Christian Council expressed its pleasure yesterday at the government's decision not to legalise the numbers business at this time.

In a statement issued after the government announced it had shelved plans to legalise the numbers business despite initial assessments determining that it could bring $30 million to $40 million in revenue into the public treasury annually, the BCC said the decision is "a good step" and one "in the right direction."

The church organisation also stressed that "fundamental long-term changes" are needed if the country is to get through its present economic predicament, which Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham has indicated to be quite dire, with the government having difficulty finding the money to fund essential services.

Referring to the gambling question, the Bahamas Christian Council (BCC) held that a country addicted to gambling and "all the social ills that are inextricably tied to it" condemns its people and generations to come to a society "void of creativity and productivity."

Evil

As an "instrument created by God", government should "secure each person and their property, equality of justice between individuals, and constrain the forces of evil in civil society," the BCC said.

Suggesting that the legalisation of the numbers business would encourage more Bahamians to gamble - although it is widely recognised that thousands of Bahamians from all areas of society do so at present, and generally with impunity - the BCC said that "laws shape society" and "human beings generally follow the laws that are set in a society."

The government stated over the weekend that it has encountered strong opinions on both sides of the debate for and against the legalisation of numbers and would put off further consideration of the issue until a referendum can be held after the next general election. The prime minister met with the BCC last month to discuss the possibility of legalising the numbers business.

Speaking to the country's financial situation, the BCC said: "There are some fundamental long-term changes that are required. These adjustments may not be considered favourable in the short-term but are critical to our overall long-term well-being and sustainability."

"The Bahamas Christian Council pledges our support to the government to assist with the sensitising of our people to the need for such measures to be implemented.

"We would also be very willing to participate in any national discussion to devise a national plan for the long-term sustainability of the Bahamian economy," the BCC said.

The organisation suggested that think-tanks with a diverse membership could also help devise solutions to the country's economic challenges by "coming up with alternative solutions to produce and create wealth in our country."

May 26, 2010

tribune242

Monday, April 19, 2010

Time to be realistic about gambling

tribune242 Editorial:


TO GAMBLE or not to gamble, that is the question.

Former prime minister Perry Christie believes that to legalise "the numbers business" in the Bahamas would have "enormous implications" for the tourism industry as well as "deep social implications."

Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham has met with the Christian Council, which really represents the Baptist voice, a voice that is rigidly against gambling in any form -- as a matter of fact it is a tenet of their religion. However, there are other churches -- the Catholics in particular -- that use a benign form of gambling - bingo and raffles -- to raise funds to help operate their schools and various other organisations.

From time to time the police have raided the various numbers houses -- including the largest one of all, the Flowers enterprise-- vowing that as long as gambling remains on the statute books they are going to enforce the law and stamp it out.

And then there are the people, who are making a fool of them all. The numbers game has become a part of their religion, and police or no police, law or no law, they intend to play the numbers. Why even police officers have been seen at the numbers window waiting to take their chance. And we know of Baptists who have asked for birth dates, hoping that playing those dates will flip a few extra coins in their pockets.

Meanwhile, crime grows in our communities and society needs protection. There are not enough police officers to go around, so the Christian Council will have to make up its mind and face reality. Do these men of the cloth want the police to chase the numbers man, and his patrons, or the gun-toting criminal who breaks into their homes, steals, rapes and murders? A realistic choice has to be made.

The Council is adamant that gambling should be stamped out, rather than legalised and controlled. The numbers racket has been allowed to go on far too long in this county, so long that even a police state would find it impossible to suppress it. If government listens to the Council, nothing will be done and the street corner numbers racket and Flowers' more sophisticated operation will continue to flourish. The people will continue to make a fool of the law, and the police will be stretched thin in trying to chase both the harmless and the vicious criminal. It is now time that the Christian Council faces reality.

In discussing the matter in the House of Assembly this was Prime Minister's Ingraham's realistic view of the situation:

"Now, Mr Speaker, this society on a Sunday morning, you go to the gaming houses, to Flowers and those places, and it is like a bank on payday - government payday. They are set-up like a bank, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of places. Well, either we believe that it is illegal, or we believe that it should be legal," said Mr Ingraham.

"I told the commissioner of police last week, that it seems to me that we are unable to enforce that law, and that I was going to give consideration to legalizing the numbers business. Of course he didn't support me in that thinking, but the reality is that it is not an enforceable law. And the society is doing it everyday. There is webshop here, and a webshop there, all over the island," said the prime minister.

The phenomenon of webshops - gaming houses - have now spread across the Family Islands, noted Mr Ingraham, to places such as Abaco, Exuma and Bimini. He said of the phenomenon, "it's nationwide."

As it cannot be controlled, then manage it, and tax it to the point that its revenue can benefit all of the Bahamian people. Education, the medical facilities and sports all desperately need an infusion of funds to improve their services to the nation.

In Barbados, for example, the national lottery is made up of the Barbados Olympic Association, the Barbados Cricket Association, the Barbados Turf Club and the National Sports Council.

It was announced that GTECH Holdings Corporation has a management agreement to operate and manage the Barbados Lottery. During the 18-year agreement GTECH expects to generate revenues between $80 and $100 million.

Can one imagine what government could do with such funds?

The Bahamian people have already decided the issue. Regardless of the law, they intend to play their numbers. It would be better for all of society if this game of chance were decriminalized, taken in out of the cold and controlled by the laws of the land.

April 19, 2010

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Bahamians express mixed views about legalized gambling

By Jimenita Swain ~ Guardian Senior Reporter ~ jimenita@nasguard.com:


A Nassau Guardian team walked the streets yesterday and asked a number of Bahamians whether gambling should be legalized.

The question comes on the heels of comments yesterday by Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham that he has already consulted several groups on the matter, including the Free National Movement's Central Council and members of his parliamentary team. He further noted that he informed Opposition Leader Perry Christie and Bain and Grants Town Member of Parliament Dr. Bernard Nottage that the government is considering the matter.

Many Bahamians expressed mixed views yesterday to The Nassau Guardian on the issue.

"The Bible speaks against gambling and I don't think we should do it," said street vendor Lynn Barr.

The 47-year-old said, "We call our nation a Christian nation, so we [have] to live up to that standard. [We've] got to trust God for all things."

"I applied on behalf of the Olympic Association for the legalization of a lottery for the purpose of helping sports and other social things," said Sir Arlington Butler, immediate past president of the Bahamas Olympic Association.

That application he explained was many years ago.

" There was some concern about the Christian Council, but I canvassed the Christian Council and I didn't find the concern the government was expressing. And they have for years been putting the Christian Council as the bogey man, but I think it was because of a lack of imagination, a lack of concern. I know that some of the churches really believe that there ought not to be gambling. I know the Methodists have been on record as saying so and there are some others."

He added that the former Archbishop of the West Indies and Bishop of The Bahamas Drexel Gomez was also against gambling.

"When you measure all of the arguments against it and those for it, I believe there is a definite possibility that it should be allowed for the benefit of the Bahamian people," he said.

Sir Arlington said in 1972 the Olympic Association raffled a house for $5 a ticket and the association has never been in the red since.

He said the legislation of gambling is long overdue.

"The unfortunate point is that we encourage it to be illegal. We encourage corruption. We encourage the development of an individual or individuals and not the development of the society. I don't know if any major things went wrong in Florida, because they had [a] lottery."

Symphony Sands, a beauty consultant said, "Honestly whether gambling is legal or illegal it doesn't matter because everyone is doing it anyway. You see police officers talking about numbers, what fall today, what [didn't] fall today, so they might as well make it legal so no one goes to jail for it [because] they're doing it anyway."

Chief of Security for Solomon Mines Carson Hepburn said, "I think gambling should be legalized. If you really look at it right now, as it is today, gambling in this country, the police knows every gambling house in this country. They know everybody is gambling, but they know it is not legal also, but [there's] nothing they can do about it. I don't see why it shouldn't be legal."

Straw market vendor Margaret Curry said, "I think gambling should not be legalized. It's a bad habit and once you fall into that habit it's an endless tunnel where you get into (it) and you never return. You get poor, broke, desperate and your children eat nothing. Gambling is a disease. Gambling is a demonic curse."

Curry compared gambling to a person who has an alcohol addition.

Fifty-one-year-old Larry Austin, another vendor in the straw market, said he also did not think gambling should be legalized.

"I don't think its a good thing. If you look at the Bible... they [gambled] for Jesus' robe and I don't think that was nice. Gambling keeps you in poverty, anybody who gambles ends up in poverty because you lose," said Austin.

He added, "You can never win once you gamble. Gambling is not a good thing because it is addictive."

Jewelry store clerk Nadia Bethel said, "I believe gambling should be legalized if the country is going to allow casinos to be here on the island. If we say we're a Christian nation and we don't want our Bahamians gambling then therefore we should not let any human beings gamble."

She added, "Visitors gamble because we have casinos legalized here in The Bahamas."

April 14, 2010

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The Governing Free National Movement (FNM) MPs support legalized gambling

By Jasmin Bonimy ~ Guardian Staff Reporter ~ jasmin@nasguard.com:


There is widespread support within the Free National Movement's parliamentary group for the legalization of gambling for Bahamians, Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham confirmed yesterday, but he made it clear that no final decision has been made on the controversial issue as yet.

Speaking to reporters outside the Cabinet Office in downtown Nassau, Ingraham said he has already consulted several groups on the matter, including the Free National Movement's Central Council and members of his parliamentary team.

He added that he also informed Opposition Leader Perry Christie and Bain and Grants Town Member of Parliament Dr. Bernard Nottage that the government is considering the matter.

"I have also met with the Christian Council," he said. "I told them that we have not made a final decision but that the matter was being considered and that I would get back to them when we would have further discussed the matter and arrived on a conclusion. But generally speaking there has been great support among the parliamentary group and the council of the FNM for the regularization of the numbers business."

Additionally, Ingraham told reporters that legalizing gambling for Bahamians could generate substantial revenues for the government.

"The chickens aren't hatched yet. I'm not counting the chickens yet. But if the government did so we would expect to get significant revenue from the operation," Ingraham said.

In the past, the prime minister has said that legalizing gambling was not a part of his third term's legislative agenda - which began when his party won the 2007 general election. However, Ingraham also noted that he would not stand in the way of changing the country's gaming laws.

While a new legislative agenda will be announced when Parliament reopens today, it is unclear if the government plans to include legalizing gambling for Bahamians in the Speech from the Throne, which will be read by the new Governor General Sir Arthur Foulkes.

"The government has been considering the question, as to whether or not we will bring in the formal economy of The Bahamas an operation that tens of thousands of Bahamians are engaged in on a daily basis," said Ingraham.

"I've made previous public comments about this and I will refer to my distress and discomfort of our inability to be able to police our laws with respect to the numbers business."

Over the years the Bahamas Christian Council and the Bahamas Baptist Missionary and Educational Convention both have expressed strong opposition to gambling.

Despite its history of opposition to legalized gambling for Bahamians, Ingraham insisted that he is not placing special emphasis on the Christian Council's opinion on the matter.

"We're not placing weight on anyone," he said. "We are consulting and getting the views of others. We know the views of some. We know the views of others and we are not so certain about the views of some people. But at the end of the day it is our decision to make one way or the other."

The views of some of Ingraham's Cabinet ministers on the issue have also been made public since the FNM won the 2007 general election.

In 2008 National Security Minister Tommy Turnquest said that he thinks there should be a referendum to answer the gambling question once and for all.

In June 2009, Minister of Health Dr. Hubert Minnis went on record saying that he supported the legalization of the local "numbers business" — which is a form of lottery gambling. His comments were made at the time when debate had heated up over the legalization of gambling for Bahamians and legal residents, after the arrest of businessman Craig Flowers a month earlier. One of the shops that fall under Flowers' FML Group of Companies was raided by police and Flowers and some of his staff arrested. They were later charged in a magistrate's court with various gambling offenses. During the heated debate labor unions, employers' associations and business leaders also came out in support of the legalization of various forms of gambling for Bahamians and legal residents.

In May 2009 President of The Bahamas Hotel Association (BHA) Robert Sands told The Nassau Guardian that his organization supports a national lottery and amending the country's gaming laws to allow legal foreign residents to gamble in casinos. The BHA does not support legalizing casino gambling for Bahamians.

President of the National Congress of Trade Unions of The Bahamas (NCTUB) John Pinder also said the organization supports a national lottery.

Former president of the Bahamas Chamber of Commerce Dionisio D'Aguilar told The Nassau Guardian that there is a consensus among business people that a public lottery should be allowed.

April 14, 2010

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Official Opposition Progressive Liberal Party (PLP) to consider position on gambling in The Bahamas for Bahamians

By Candia Dames~ Guardian News Editor ~ candia@nasguard.com:


Opposition Leader Perry Christie said yesterday the Progressive Liberal Party has not yet come to a position on whether gambling should be legalized in The Bahamas for Bahamians, but he said the issue is up for consideration now that it has been thrust back into the national spotlight.

"This is a vexing problem for the country because of the [number] of people we know certainly are involved in playing the games," he said. "A government faced with that reality must either do its best to advise the population that it will have strict enforcement or alternatively it has to consider some realities. Now the difficulty about gaming is that all governments up to now have sort of elected to avoid the calamitous social consequences and people who talk about having freedom, they say 'well you're interfering with our freedom', but governments knew from the experience of some other countries that it has a dire impact upon populations and people who are tempted to go for the big prize and spending even their children's lunch money. "

Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham told reporters yesterday that he had advised Christie that his government was considering legalizing gambling.

Christie said this was not a formal advisement, but took place during a social occasion.

"I raised the question as to whether it will be consideration for a referendum where the people will have an unfettered right to determine... but he said the consideration was being given to some kind of immediate amendment of the law," Christie said.

"Clearly, consultation with civil society and the church is necessary because it is an issue that could really divide the country into a bitter fight and it is important therefore that the government meets with the opposition, meets with the churches and other important groups in our society with a view to see if there is common ground."

Ingraham confirmed that he met recently with the Christian Council and indicated what the government was considering.

Asked whether the PLP would support legalizing gambling for Bahamians, Christie said, "The opposition has always up to this point treated gambling as it did with capital punishment where it's a vote of conscience... We have members who are church members in a meaningful way in our grouping in the PLP, who I know flatly will support the position of the church and there are others who will take a different point of view.

"And so, the opposition, based on the prime minister's casual conversation with me, has put it up for mention in our discussions but we have not had any deliberations beyond what is the position of some individuals within the group. And so, it's a matter for us to... stand and wait to see what is taking place."

April 14, 2010

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