Showing posts with label Bishop Neil Ellis Bahamas. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bishop Neil Ellis Bahamas. Show all posts

Saturday, May 26, 2012

Bishop Neil Ellis urges members of the Christian community to “stand firmly” in opposition to the Christie administration’s planned referendum on illegal gambling and a national lottery

Bishop Ellis: Christians must stand firm against legalized gambling


Royston Jones Jr.
Guardian Staff Reporter
royston@nasguard.com


Bishop Neil Ellis of Mount Tabor Full Gospel Baptist Church is urging members of the Christian community to “stand firmly” in opposition to the Christie administration’s planned referendum on illegal gambling and a national lottery, so that “there would not be blood on our hands” if it is ultimately passed.

Ellis was one of several pastors who commented on the referendum promised in the Speech from the Throne read by Governor General Sir Arthur Foulkes at the opening of Parliament on Wednesday.

In its Charter for Governance, the Progressive Liberal Party (PLP) committed to holding that referendum within its first 100 days in office.

Ellis told The Nassau Guardian that while the country might experience some financial gain as a result of regularizing gambling, Bahamian families are likely to suffer in the long run.

He said that in the past, many Bahamian families “lost everything” due to gambling.

He was referring to the Hobby Horse Hall, a horse racing venue where betting was legal decades ago.

“If we vote in favor we may benefit with the country gaining some type of revenue from it but we have people like those a while ago who lose everything and still have to come back to social services and drain the government,” said Ellis.

“You’d effectively be taking revenue in the front door and its goes out the back door. It’s going to be really important for the church community to lay its agenda clearly and concisely on the table so that if this is passed there would not be blood on our hands. But the government in its wisdom wants to bring some resolution to it and I applaud them for it.”

Bishop Reno V. Smith, pastor of Mt. Gilead Union Baptist Church in Eight Mile Rock, Grand Bahama, told The Guardian that while he was pleased the Christie administration thought it “proper and fitting” to put the issue to the Bahamian people, if the outcome was favorable, players of “games of chance” should not be permitted to be a further burden on the government.

“Should those people lose their houses, their homes, their incomes etc., I don’t think they should be allowed as gamblers to go to the Department of Social Services to be sustained by people like me and others who pay taxes,” Smith said.

“If the people decide that they wish to gamble, then that’s up to them. However, I would like to see all gamblers – players of games [of] chance – to be registered so that they would not be a further burden to the taxpayers of this country.”

The issue has been a prickly one for successive governments, as members of the Christian community have strongly objected to any hint of legalizing gambling for Bahamians.

Christian Council Treasurer Bishop Gregory Minnis of New Jerusalem Kingdom Ministries said that although he believes gambling is wrong from a biblical standpoint, he understood why so many people turned to the industry as a means of “pulling in a dollar” in light of the current state of the economy and unemployment.

“We (Christian Council) are strongly against gambling, but if the people speak and they desire for it then we as the church will have to say to our people to be mindful of how you accomplish your goals now, and how you accomplished all that you have before gambling came in,” Minnis said.

He also said that a national lottery would promote organized crime if it were not implemented properly by the government, and could further criminal activity in the country.

He added that the Christian community would be called upon to make its position “resoundingly” clear, and said he believes more people are opposed to legalizing gambling than are those who support it.

May 25, 2012

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Thursday, January 19, 2012

Bishop Neil Ellis is right... there are more than three demons destroying The Bahamas... but the main ones are the ones he decided to drag across the coals Monday night -- sexual immorality, financial instability and witchcraft

BISHOP ELLIS IS RIGHT - SOCIAL ILLS MEAN DESTRUCTION

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IN THIS column yesterday, we jested about Bishop Neil Ellis' theatrical announcement of how, as God's chosen messenger, he was sent to warn Bahamians that the world's three greatest vices, in the form of demons, had landed on our shores and were holding this country "hostage."

Jumping Jehosephat! News enough to make the faint-hearted jump out of bed and take to the hills. But that is not where the bishop wanted Bahamians to take themselves. The bishop was dead serious. He wanted them shivering in fright, not in the hills, but in Mount Tabor Full Gospel Baptist Church in Pinewood Gardens. The demons were so devilishly evil that he daren't mention their names outside the sanctified halls of Mount Tabor. And only those who attended the church and filled the parking lot would get God's message first hand from his special messenger - Bishop Neil Ellis himself.

We must admit that the Bishop's promotion was superb. He built the suspense up to a crescendo, until his church and parking lot were filled. Up went the song. The show was on. At the end of the service, it is certain that the church's coffers were also generously filled.

But seriously now, Bishop Ellis is right, there are more than three demons destroying this country, but the main ones are the ones he decided to drag across the coals Monday night -- sexual immorality, financial instability and witchcraft.

Sexual immorality -- nothing new, been with us for a long time, as a matter of fact Adam and Eve were the ones who stole the apple from the garden and passed their sin down through the generations. Here in the Bahamas, it goes under several names, the most popular being "sweethearting".

We recall overhearing an interview being conducted at The Tribune when we were quite young. The person being interviewed was telling how a baby, in or out of wedlock -- particularly out of wedlock -- was a West Indian thing. That child was treated as a woman's insurance for her old age. At least she had someone to look after her when she was past it. This struck our puritanical nature so strange at the time that it is the only part of that interview that we remember.

About 87 years ago, our mother landed in the Bahamas for the first time from the hills of Pennsylvania. Although a young teacher, it was the first time that she had seen an ocean, islands, beaches, coconut trees, and many other things. The first landing was at Mathew Town, Inagua, where an election was in full swing and her husband was one of the candidates. As a good wife, she went off on her own to talk with the people. When she and Sir Etienne Dupuch met again later in the day, she was troubled by a recurrent answer that she got whenever she asked a man how many children he had.

"Etienne," she said, "tell me what is this 'inside' and 'outside' thing. Every man that I asked how many children he had would say, x number inside, and y number outside, and there was always more on the y side than the x side. What did they mean?" Poor, innocent Mum, she never lived that one down. But by the time she arrived from Inagua to Nassau on the mail boat she had the answer-- she had learned about Inagua's many inside and outside children.

A few years ago, a young doctor told us that the maternity ward of the Princess Margaret Hospital was like a factory churning out babies into the bleakest of environments -- the nation's future social problems. It was a maternity ward where babies were having babies, where young girls were on their third or fourth child, each with a different father. It was shocking to identify some of these men, some of them already married, who were producing these "outside" families.

When we were a child, everyone was poor. It was no sin to be poor, and no one seemed to envy his neighbour -- certainly not to the extent that we see today's avarice satisfied at any price. At least growing up, money did not seem all that important. Wasn't Sir Etienne, our father, often turning down advertising because it offended some principle, at the same time, we heard him worry out loud about where he was going to find the few pence needed in those days to pay our small staff. We even watched when his largest advertiser arrived at his editorial door one day to cancel his advertising because he disapproved of a series of editorials Sir Etienne was writing about liquor stores being built, not only near churches, but in our poorest communities to undermine "our good people".

Before the advertiser could finish his sentence, Sir Etienne had cancelled his advertising and ordered him from his premises. Of course, he had to meet payroll at the end of the week. We do not know how he did it, but somehow he survived. So we grew up believing that money was not all that important. However, what was important was to use our lives to honestly serve the Bahamian people through this newspaper. We were not here to fill our own pockets, and so when business has to be turned down even today, it is turned down.

But in the sixties, attitudes changed. The drug era was around the corner and success was measured by material wealth. Bahamians were told that there was nothing stopping them becoming millionaires, and with the temptation of drug money coming in, nothing did. No matter how uncouth or unlearned a man was he was soon in if he had the trappings of wealth -- however earned. The younger generation looked up to their big brothers, daddys and uncles and measured success by their fast cars, the gold chains jangling from their necks and gaudy rings on their fingers. Youngsters were writing school essays describing how their ambition in life was to be a drug smuggler like their uncle or cousin, or some other member of the family or friend. That's what heroes were made of in those days.

This is when one of Bishop Ellis' demons really took hold and spawned the crime that we see on the streets today. We remember in those days - the seventies and eighties -- former Assistant Commissioner of Police Paul Thompson, now retired, predicting that if something were not done at that time to curb the trend we would be battling the very crime that is today destroying our way of life.

In this, Bishop Ellis is right. This is one demon that has to be overcome by a community that has gone astray, never forgetting that many among them set the pace for today's problems.

January 19, 2012

- Bishop Neil Ellis of Mount Tabor Full Gospel Baptist Church warned that there are three demons that are holding The Bahamas hostage... and can only be exorcised with prayer... ... The demons are sexual immorality, financial instability and witchcraft -


- Bishop Neil Ellis and his 'message' from God -


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Monday, June 6, 2011

WikiLeaks on Bishop Neil C. Ellis...and Bishop Neil C. Ellis on WikiLeaks

CANDIA DAMES
NG News Editor
thenassauguardian
candia@nasguard.com


A U.S. Embassy official claimed in a cable penned in 2003 that Bishop Neil C. Ellis — who is repeatedly described in diplomatic documents as Perry Christie’s spiritual adviser — remarked that the then prime minister was not a “true man of God” although he was trying to be religious.

The American also wrote that at a meeting with Ellis at his Mount Tabor Baptist Church, he also remarked that Hubert Ingraham, at the time former prime minister, was definitely “not a man of God” even if he does attend church.

When we sat down with Ellis a few days ago at Mount Tabor to discuss the cables that mentioned his name, Ellis denied most of the claims documented by U.S. diplomats.

But it is the claim regarding his purported comment on Christie and Ingraham’s spirituality that he seemed most taken aback by.

“I don’t qualify to determine who is a man of God and who is not a man of God,” he told The Nassau Guardian.

“…For me to say I think Christie is a pretender would be very hypocritical of me because I’ve always said publicly and I would say again, I believe Perry Christie is one of the greatest humanitarians I’ve ever met.”

A read of at least two cables shows that while Ellis was growing his church, American diplomats were placing the spotlight on him and his relationship with Christie in a major way.

“Quite a bit of it surprises me,” said Ellis, when asked about what his general impression was of what the Americans attributed to him.

According to the cables, obtained by The Nassau Guardian through WikiLeaks, despite not being a member of the government, Ellis wielded considerable influence in the Christie administration, as did businessman Franklyn Wilson.

One of the cables, which was classified by then Deputy Chief of Mission Robert Witajewksi, said, “Ellis openly uses his pulpit in one of Nassau's largest and fastest growing churches to advance the PLP's political agenda, and by allying himself so closely with Christie, has surpassed many of his more established (and perhaps more respectable) religious brethren in influence.”

The name at the end of that particular cable is Richard Blankenship, who at the time was United States ambassador to The Bahamas.

Ellis told The Guardian he was not well liked by Blankenship because he had made a statement about the involvement of diplomats in the local affairs of a country.

He said it arouses curiosity that the Americans want to know everything that is happening on every level in the Bahamas.

‘A CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE’

The Americans documented two meetings they say they had with Ellis at his church in Pinewood Gardens.

Ellis told The Nassau Guardian he recalled at least one of those meetings, but he remembered it being very informal with no detailed discussion about Christie or Ingraham.

According to one of the cables, on December 2, 2003, a U.S. diplomat paid a courtesy call on Ellis, described as “hard to pin down” and “charismatic”.

“During the nearly two-hour meeting, Ellis described the enterprise his parish has become,” the cable said.

“He also outlined his role as the local Dixville Notch, New Hampshire, of Bahamian politics — the one visit that all aspiring politicians must make in order to confirm their legitimacy.”

Ellis totally dismissed this claim when he spoke with The Nassau Guardian.

“Why would any sensible, logically thinking person make a statement like that?” he asked.

The cable added: “Ellis has come far, from a humble background, mentored and supported by prominent businessman Frankie Wilson, with whom he maintains a close personal and business relationship.”

The American diplomat wrote in 2003 that conventional wisdom holds that Ingraham had sealed his fate by displaying arrogance toward the religious leadership while he was prime minister.

“The electorate of the Bahamas is devout, and the church leaders refused to remain silent after the former PM had expressed views antithetical to religious conservatives, such as welcoming to port a cruise liner catering to gay clientele and advocating for constitutional reform targeted toward improving women’s rights,” the diplomat also wrote.

According to the diplomat who wrote the cable on the heels of the December 2, 2002 meeting, Ellis described “a strange ritual” whereby Christie had sought a meeting with him over a several week period as he was gearing up for the 2002 election campaign.

The cable said: “Ellis kept rebuffing [Christie’s] request, offering him only a 10 minute slot.

“Finally, however, Ellis offered [Christie] the opportunity to travel with him on a religious speaking tour in the U.S., promising that if [Christie] attended three of his sermons, he would be available to counsel [Christie] throughout the tour.

“Thus, the two men spent many intense hours together, during which time Ellis looked into [Christie’s] soul and concluded that [Christie] has religious inclinations, but is ‘not yet there’.”

But Ellis said this could not be further from the truth.

“I can’t look into a person’s soul,” he told The Nassau Guardian. “I’m not the savior of the world. Jesus is.”

The cable said though Christie was not one of Ellis’ regular parishioners, since the 2002 election, he had attended from time to time, as did all but three cabinet ministers.

An embassy official said in another cable after reportedly meeting with Ellis in late May 2002 that the bishop had expressed his desire for closer relations with the embassy, bemoaned his treatment in the press and offered a fascinating, intimate account of how he came to publicly endorse Christie in the last election.

The official said that as Wilson did in a separate meeting, Ellis unconvincingly denied having or wanting any real influence. Both men were described as “powerbrokers” as it regards the PLP — a claim Ellis laughed at as he denied it to the Guardian.

The embassy official described Ellis as one of the Bahamas’ most controversial figures.

The cable said: “He publicly endorsed Perry Christie during the 2002 campaign and reportedly told his congregation from the pulpit during a religious service that they must support Christie if they wished to remain members of his church.”

The diplomat also wrote that Ellis also held a huge religious revival featuring a renowned U.S. evangelist that was a magnet for criticism about the reported “greediness” of its fundraising appeal.

“Establishment religious figures now sometimes preface fund-raising remarks by noting that the funds ‘will not be used to build a vacation house in Bimini’ to distinguish themselves from the self-proclaimed bishop,” the cable said.

“The press hounds him constantly about his flamboyant personal lifestyle and open political preferences.

“Ellis was another protégé of (the late former prime minister) Sir Lynden Pindling, who identified him as a promising young man growing up on the small island of Bimini and brought him to Nassau to complete his education.”

The diplomat wrote that Ellis is affiliated with the Full Gospel Baptist Church headquartered in New Orleans, and is its “bishop” for international churches, theoretically having all Full Gospel Baptist churches in The Bahamas under his leadership.

“Prime Minister Christie has openly referred to Ellis as his spiritual adviser, and many Bahamians assume that his influence runs deep within the administration,” the cable said.

ENDORSING CHRISTIE

In the cable that came out of the May 2002 meeting with Bishop Ellis, the diplomat goes into amazing details about what was allegedly observed.

For instance, the cable said the embassy official was met by the first of Ellis’ personal assistants upon arrival, and was passed on to the second, who entertained him while Ellis finished a meeting with his seven associate pastors.

According to the cable, Ellis then received the official in his “nicely appointed, bordering on lavish, but not quite passing over into poor taste, office.”

“He was dressed in a loud magenta clerical shirt with gold and diamond cufflinks, a thick gold chain, several large gold rings and a gold Rolex watch,” the embassy official wrote.

“Ellis is a thin, energetic man of middling height, in his early 40s. He is married and has three adopted daughters.” (Ellis said he does not have three adopted daughters).

Ellis also strongly denied the American diplomat’s characterization of him.

In fact, he said he never owned a Rolex watch or diamond cufflinks in his life.

“Anybody who knows me knows that I am not given to much jewelry,” added Ellis, now 50.

When The Guardian visited him, he was wearing his gold bishop’s cross around his neck, his wedding band and a wristwatch (definitely not a Rolex).

In fact, Ellis said he shops for $10 watches at Bijoux Terner in the Atlanta airport and has one watch that is a little more expensive that was a gift from someone in the ministry.

Ellis said he wears his bishop’s ring only at special services — a fact later confirmed separately by his associate pastors and assistant who had not been privy to his earlier discussion with The Guardian.

They all said they have never seen the bishop with any Rolex watches and that he barely wears jewelry.

The cable alleges that Ellis described “the remarkable story about how he came to endorse Perry Christie in the 2002 elections.”

The diplomat wrote: “According to Ellis, he barely knew Christie before the run up to the 2002 election.

“After that time, he says Christie began seeking an appointment with him, saying he needed to speak with him for several hours.

“Ellis says that he kept putting Christie off, both because he didn’t have that time to spare and because he had a bad initial impression of him.”

According to the cable, Ellis said this bad opinion dated from the PLP leadership battle between Christie and Dr. Bernard Nottage.

“Nottage was a friend and former congregation member of Ellis and harbored a lot of ill will toward Christie because of his loss,” the diplomat wrote.

“Christie was persistent in his pursuit of Ellis, whose church membership has definite PLP leanings.”

The cable added: “Finally, according to Ellis, he agreed to take Christie along with him on an evangelical trip to the U.S., promising that if Christie attended all the services he preached at, Ellis would give him the time in between to listen to his appeal.

“Ellis said that when given the opportunity, Christie and Ellis spoke for 13 hours straight, about both secular and spiritual matters and that Ellis progressively became more convinced that Christie had been ‘sent by God’ to lead the Bahamas.

“The meeting ended, according to Ellis, in a scene reminiscent of the Biblical story of Samuel’s anointing of Saul, with Christie coming around the table they were seated at, going to his knees and requesting a blessing from Bishop Ellis.

“At the time, Ellis reported, the spirit came upon him and told him that he had to endorse Christie.”

The cable also said: “Ellis, on the one hand, denied having or wanting any political influence with Christie, but on the other hand went to great lengths to explain how close their relationship is and how often Christie calls on him for spiritual guidance.

“For example, Ellis recounted that Christie had presented him with the names of his Cabinet nominees before they were announced and asked him to pray over them and give his opinion.”

But Ellis told The Guardian that the official’s characterization of these events is “totally false”.

“First of all, I can’t say I had a bad impression of Mr. Christie before I met him,” Ellis said.

“But it is true I didn’t know him that well (prior to 2002). All I knew of him was his public life.

“As it relates to Mr. Christie seeking my anointing, that is totally false. I don’t remember him ever saying that to me and I don’t remember saying that to anybody.”

Ellis said it is true that Christie traveled with him more than once.

“The first trip he attended with me, he said he just wanted to talk with me and spend a little time with me,” the bishop said.

“My office let him know what my schedule was and when they told him of a particular trip that was going on he asked if he could go and I had no objections because people go on trips with me from time to time.

“I did say to him since he was a politician that I would prefer him not to travel alone with me, so he brought two of his other colleagues with him.”

Ellis said the trip was to Atlanta. He also recalled another occasion where Christie traveled with him to Baltimore, Maryland.

“I don’t see that as an unusual situation,” he said of the trips.

Ellis also suggested it was laughable to write that he spoke to Christie for 13 hours straight.

“Just think about that,” he said.

“I do know that in the 2002 election, I was very up front with my support for Mr. Christie. I don’t believe that if you have a conviction you have to be secretive about it.

“…I felt at that time this was the man to lead our country and I was proven to be right at the time.

“To say he was sent by God to lead the country, I don’t know if any of us could be that bold.”

Ellis also said he had no recollection of Christie ever getting on his knees to be anointed by him.

“If the person (the embassy official) wasn’t even clear about what I was wearing, they were putting things on me that were not on my person, then I don’t how much more attention to pay to anything that was said,” he said.

MULTIPLE ATTACKS

According to the May 2002 cable, Ellis claimed that ever since Mount Tabor started to grow and he began to be seen as a successful pastor, he has come under attack by some people, including other pastors, who are jealous of his success.

As a result, Ellis claims he has been unfairly vilified in the press, particularly the scandal-mongering tabloid The Punch, the diplomat wrote.

“Ellis says that during one stretch The Punch printed negative articles about him in 95 consecutive editions.

“…In addition, Ellis has received heavy criticism for the large salary he draws (reportedly a tax-free $180,000 a year), and his penchant for luxurious living.

“Recently, attention has focused on the impressive house he is building for himself in one of Nassau’s more exclusive neighborhoods, reportedly costing $1 million.

“Ellis claimed that the stories were exaggerated, but made no excuses for his lifestyle, implying it was only fitting for the pastor of such a large and thriving church.”

Again rejecting how he was characterized by the diplomat, Ellis told The Nassau Guardian, “I understand the role I am in…I’m always up for public scrutiny.

“I try to take it gracefully. I’ve never responded to any attacks in the media…When you’re in the public’s eye and when you’re in public life you have to be open to public scrutiny.”

The diplomat wrote in 2002, “As a consequence of his ongoing bad press, Ellis has vowed not to respond to any of the allegations against him.

“Doing so, he said, just legitimizes those allegations and gives them more life. Many in his congregation, he says, have disagreed with this policy and urge him to publicly lash out at his critics, which he admits is tempting, but he continues to maintain his silence, preferring to let the criticism pass.”

Ellis told the Guardian he has not collected a salary from Mount Tabor in 17 years.

“I give my services to Mount Tabor free of charge,” he said.

He said he earns money from speaking engagements, books and other products he offers.

“If Mount Tabor was paying me $180,000 I wouldn’t be going home,” he said with a laugh.

He stressed also that he never told his congregation to vote PLP or leave the church.

Ellis insists that the recording to this effect is a compilation of several sermons he delivered that were doctored by critics and sent to the media.

He said Christie never asked him to be his spiritual adviser and he never regarded himself as such.

Asked by The Nassau Guardian if he would be prepared to endorse Christie in the next general election, Ellis said it was not something he wished to discuss publicly as yet.

“Mr. Christie and I shared a wonderful relationship leading up to the (2002) election and thereafter,” he added.

“I don’t claim to have been any closer to him than any others.”

Ellis stressed that he has respect for all of the country’s leaders and noted that he was a part of a group of pastors who met with Ingraham last year to discuss important matters.

Jun 06, 2011

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