Showing posts with label Brian Moree. Show all posts
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Monday, June 20, 2005

Fred Mitchell Blasted on the CARICOM Single Market and Economy - CSME Debate

Mitchell Blasted On CSME


By Candia Dames

candiadames@hotmail.com

Nassau, The Bahamas

June 20, 2005



Chairman of the government-appointed Bahamas Financial Services Consultative Forum Brian Moree believes it was unfortunate that Minister of Foreign Affairs Fred Mitchell deemed it appropriate last week to "impugn and demean" the views and motives of certain persons who opposed his views on the CARICOM Single Market and Economy.


"In doing so the Minister seemed to think that this somehow vindicated his position or strengthened his case on CSME.  I think, with respect, that he was wrong and in doing so he did not enhance his cause or the dignity of his office by resorting to name calling and finger pointing," said Mr. Moree, who also commended the government for "listening to and considering the views of the Bahamian" people on CSME.


During his address one week ago today, Minister Mitchell announced that the government will not be signing the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas within this present term, and lashed out at various individuals who had opposing views on whether the country should join the regional agreement.


Minister Mitchell said that some detractors of the CSME were false prophets who opposed the independence of The Bahamas back in the early 1970's and are now crying crocodile tears over the issue of CSME and an alleged threat to the country's sovereignty.


He also named several people directly, including Mr. Moree, whom he accused of spreading misinformation on the issue.


But Mr. Moree, in his statement issued over the weekend, said, "The simple fact is that the Minister, as the lead spokesman for the government, failed to convince thousands of Bahamians that signing the Revised Treaty was in the national interest of our country.


"If he is unhappy with that position he should not seek solace in lambasting those who did not share his view.  Rather, I respectfully suggest that it would be more constructive for the Minister to focus on the relevant issues and at least countenance the thought that there might be some merit in views other than his own."


Refuting more of what the Minister said in the House of Assembly last week, Mr. Moree added, "I regret that it is necessary to remind the Minister that those of us who do not agree with his assessment of the CSME are not unintelligent, confused, uninformed or misguided.


"My opposition to the CSME is not, and has never been, politically motivated or in any way related to the Minister in his personal capacity.  I repeatedly made the point in my public statements that the CSME is not a political issue and the national debate should proceed on that basis."


Referring to Mr. Moree, Minister Mitchell in his address said that as the chairman of The Bahamas Financial Services Consultative Forum, caused "quite a stir in the community" when his group released an immigration report suggesting that the immigration laws of The Bahamas should be liberalized to allow for more foreign workers to come and work in the financial services sector.


"Now he comes a few months later and says that we must not sign onto the CSME provisions because they would allow the free movement of people," the Minister said.  "I must be missing something here.  What is the principle at stake here?  If you believe in liberalized immigration what problem in principle then do you have with the CARICOM treaty which believes in liberalized immigration?


"But I have to add quickly, the government is not proposing anything to do with the free movement of people.  That reservation is proposed and already agreed.  It is the existing situation and status quo.  But you know never let the truth interfere with a good story."


Mr. Moree also responded to the Minister's comments in this regard.

 "He characterized that report as suggesting that the immigration laws of The Bahamas should be liberalized to allow foreign workers to come and work in our financial services sector," Mr. Moree noted.


"Remarkably, and with no basis in truth, the Minister then boldly attributed to me the position that The Bahamas 'should not sign onto the CSME provisions because they would allow the free movement of people'.


"As I am the chairman of the forum, the Minister ridiculed this position which he attributed to me on the CSME as contradictory to the contents of the report.  The Minister was clearly inferring that I was advancing irreconcilable positions, apparently in an attempt to discredit my opposing view on the CSME.  This is a most convoluted and distorted thought process."


Mr. Moree pointed out that he did not object to the CSME simply because it would allow the free movement of people.


"While that is certainly a legitimate concern for many Bahamians, even considering the reservation in respect of Articles 45 and 46, there were and continues to be many additional well reasoned, thoughtful and principled objections to The Bahamas signing on the CSME.


"Secondly, there is absolutely no inconsistency between supporting the recommendations in the forum's report and the position adopted by me in opposing the CSME.  Specifically, there is no helpful comparison between the narrow liberalization of our immigration policy as it relates to a single sector in selective and targeted areas of specialization on the one hand and the open sesame which (but for the reservation) is envisaged in the Revised Treaty on the other hand whereby ultimately there would be no restrictions on the nationals of 15 different countries moving freely between the member states in a single economic space."


Mr. Moree added, "The Minister should follow his own admonition and avoid subterfuge and confusion when commenting on the CSME.  My views on the CSME as it relates to The Bahamas are based on my consideration of our national interests.


"Presumably the same can be said of the views of the Minister.  No one involved in the debate should claim to have a monopoly on virtue and certainly the national debate is not advanced by denigrating persons who hold a different view or impugning their motives."


In his budget address last week which focused exclusively on the CSME issue, Minister Mitchell also blasted former Ministers Sir William Allen and Zhivargo Laing; Bahamas Public Services Union President John Pinder; attorney, Fred Smith, who heads the Grand Bahama Human Rights Association; and the Nassau Institute. 

Wednesday, May 25, 2005

Free National Movement (FNM) Leader, Senator Tommy Turnquest - Advises The Bahamas Government not to join the Caricom Single Market and Economy (CSME)

FNM Leader Advises Gov't Not To Join CSME


By Candia Dames

candiadames@hotmail.com

Nassau, The Bahamas

24th May 2005



Amid increased debate over the Caricom Single Market and Economy (CSME), Free National Movement Leader Senator Tommy Turnquest yesterday set the record straight on the FNM's position on the controversial agreement, saying it is not the same position held by the government.


Mr. Turnquest said it is the FNM's position that The Bahamas should not join the CSME.


He made the comment in an interview with The Bahama Journal on the heels of continued statements made by Minister of Foreign Affairs Fred Mitchell that the FNM agrees with the government on how to proceed on CSME.


Minister Mitchell indicated recently in a statement that, "the position of the Official Opposition as communicated to the Minister is that they agree, and are at one with the government's position on CSME- provided reservations are obtained for The Bahamas not to participate in the free movement of people; the Caribbean Court of Justice at the appellate level, the single currency and monetary union and the Common External Tariff."


During an address last week to the Abaco Chamber of Commerce, the Minister said, "Both political parties agree with the approach that we have decided with regard to [the CSME].  You will see a lowering of the temperature on this over the next few weeks.  The arguments from the opponents have been exhausted.  You can see this with the lengths of the desperation and invention that are taking place."


But Mr. Turnquest said the Foreign Affairs Minister "ought to desist from saying what he's saying about the Free National Movement" regarding its position on CSME.


While he said that the FNM believes that the government should not sign the agreement, he also indicated that the party supports a referendum on the issue.


In addition, he said- should The Bahamas sign on; it should secure the mentioned reservations.  But Mr. Turnquest ‐ joining a growing chorus ‐ questioned how long the reservations would last.


"We want to be assured that the reservations at some point in the future don't just fall away and we find ourselves automatically becoming a part of this Caribbean union with those tenets being in place," Mr. Turnquest said.


But while on the Love 97 programme "Jones and Company" on Sunday, Minister Mitchell indicated that the reservations would last for as long as a Government of The Bahamas wishes them to.


Mr. Turnquest said yesterday that the FNM's position has "evolved to where we support the position that Bahamians have.  We ought to have a referendum on it."


He said, "There are some theorists or constitutional experts who say that our constitution does not allow for that type of referendum to be held.  We can amend our laws so that the people of The Bahamas have more of a say in this matter.


As far as I am concerned, the people ought to decide.


"I listened to Brian Moree on Jones and Co. [Sunday] when he said if you disagree with five fundamental positions like that, why then join and I wholeheartedly agree with him.  That's exactly what I'm saying."


Mr. Turnquest was asked whether The Bahamas should no longer be a part of Caricom.


"If they are not prepared to accept us as a part of it [then so be it], but I think they would be prepared to have us in terms of the cooperation and other aspects and they would benefit as would we.  I don't see that there are any great benefits to us signing and opting out of the major provisions," he said.


Asked on the show on Sunday if The Bahamas would be axed from Caricom if it does not sign the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas, Minister Mitchell declined to give a direct answer.


He did say, however, that, "The great beauty of the Caricom movement is it isn't one of these hard and fast, black and white issues.  The fact is we do participate in all of the organs of the community at the moment, but it is just appropriate for us to be signatories to the treaty.  Everyone else in the community is a signatory to the treaty."


When asked by the show's host, Wendall Jones, whether The Bahamas should sign the treaty, he said, "I believe it should.  In fact, the government decided on the 21st of December last year that we ought to do that subject to obtaining the reservations which we have advanced in the public domain." 

Monday, May 23, 2005

The Raging Debate over the CARICOM Single Market and Economy (CSME) continues in The Bahamas

Clash Over CSME


By Candia Dames

candiadames@hotmail.com

Nassau, The Bahamas

23rd May 2005


The raging debate over the CARICOM Single Market and Economy (CSME) continued on Sunday as Foreign Affairs Minister Fred Mitchell locked horns with a leading attorney over various aspects of the agreement, which has created much furor in recent weeks.


A heated exchange between Minister Mitchell and Brian Moree on the Love 97 programme "Jones and Company" led to the attorney lashing out at the Minister over certain comments he made.


Throughout the show, Minister Mitchell, who at times appeared frustrated over what he termed misinformation on CSME, insisted that there will be no fundamental changes if The Bahamas signs onto to the agreement.


"What I'm saying is, let's not frighten ourselves by saying that there is going to be some fundamental change," he said.


"There is going to be no fundamental change and as for whether the reservations will last, I cannot say.  I can only speak for the Government of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas today."


There continues to be great confusion over whether the reservations the government is seeking will last indefinitely.  Several prominent figures, including Mr. Moree, have insisted that they are merely deferrals.


The government has said that at this time, The Bahamas will not participate in the free movement of people; the Caribbean Court of Justice at the appellate level, the single currency and monetary union, and the Common External Tariff.


Mr. Moree believes it is senseless to join an agreement and opt out of its major fundamental provisions.


"If you look at the literature that comes out of the southern Caribbean on the CSME, it seems to make the point very strongly that the CSME is a pipedream if it does not involve full integration of the peoples of the Caribbean countries," said Moree, who also heads the government-appointed Financial Services.


"There has to be political integration; there has to be full economic union.  When you get there, is perhaps debatable- and whether all countries get there at the same time is perhaps debatable.  The fundamental point is that these reservations do not mean that we are not going to be required to deal with these issues at some point in the future.  Before I get into something, I want to look at the future.  I don't have the luxury of mortgaging my children's future."


But Minister Mitchell shot back, "This emotive language is simply irresponsible."


It's a statement Mr. Moree took exception with.


"Minister, we should keep the level of debate high out of respect for your office," he said. "I am not irresponsible."


"I said the language was irresponsible," Minister Mitchell corrected him.


Mr. Moree responded, "That is a view, Minister...The Government of The Bahamas should listen to its people."


"I am listening to you, Mr. Moree," the Minister said.  "I am saying that if you want to keep the debate responsible we have to deal with the facts and the facts are that there will be no fundamental change."


Mr. Moree fired back, "But that is wrong and very few people agree with you."


Minister Mitchell insisted that that statement was simply incorrect.


"You're talking economic theory," he told Mr. Moree.


"I am talking what the facts are as presented by the Government of The Bahamas.  Those facts are that reservations exist- and there is no timing on those reservations and so the treaty as far as those provisions will apply, will not apply to The Bahamas.  How many times does one have to say [that]?"


Mr. Moree suggested sarcastically that the Minister "holds all wisdom" and is intolerant of anyone who opposes him on CSME.  But Minister Mitchell said this was not the case.


He said signing the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas is "really about our continued participation in CARICOM...What we are doing or proposing is to finish the work of becoming incorporated into CARICOM since the treaty is to come into force at the end of the year and maintaining our position with regard to the status quo as far as our relations with CARICOM is concerned by entering reservations pursuant to Article 237 of the treaty, which really puts us in the same position which we are in now."


The show's host, Wendall Jones, said, "The detractors of this say it makes no sense for The Bahamas to sign on to CSME because fundamentally, the economic side is fundamentally what CSME is all about."


"CARICOM is both political and economic, and the government's case has always been that we're a part of CARICOM for geopolitical reasons- and that now that we have the [Revised] Treaty of Chaguaramas, if we are to be fully a part of CARICOM, we should sign the treaty with the reservations, which will serve our national interest."


Mr. Jones then asked, "Are you suggesting therefore that if we do not sign the treaty then we are not a part of CARICOM or should not be a part of CARICOM?"


The Minister explained that, "The great beauty of the CARICOM movement is it isn't one of these hard and fast, black and white issues.  The fact is we do participate in all of the organs of the community at the moment, but it is just appropriate for us to be signatories to the treaty.  Everyone else in the community is a signatory to the treaty."


He added, "I believe that [the government should sign the treaty].  In fact, the government decided on December 31 that we ought to do that, subject to obtaining the reservations which we have advanced in the public domain."


But Mr. Moree said, "I do not think that The Bahamas should join a single economy with 14 other countries within the region.  That is my primary concern.  I don't think there are compelling economic interests for The Bahamas to join this single economy."


He was echoing sentiments expressed in recent times by former Governor of the Central Bank and former Minister of Finance Sir William Allen, and soon to be former Governor of the Central Bank Julian Francis.


Mr. Moree said, "The reservations that the Minister has indicated I think are very important, but there are many questions as to how long these reservations will continue.  Who will decide when they end?  Do we retain control over making these decisions?  And in any event, what about the right of establishment, which is not currently one of the four reservations?  What is the impact of the freedom of movement of skilled persons... as opposed to the free movement of labour generally?"


The Minister explained, "The right of establishment will not affect the retail and wholesale trades in The Bahamas because the right of establishment has to deal with those areas of the economy which are foreign exchange earners for the particular country.  These sectors include, amongst others, the hotel sector, the manufacturing export sector and some smaller areas like specialty restaurants.


"What right of establishment does is it gives you when you invest in a country the right to bring certain skilled labour to run your establishment.  If you look at the national investment policy of The Bahamas today, all of those areas that I have listed are already areas where foreign investors are able to come and invest in the country and part of the policy is that they are permitted to have the skilled labour to run their companies.  So it balances out."


While the Minister insisted throughout the show that signing the Revised Treaty of Chauguaramas would be merely a political move, Bahamas High Commissioner to CARICOM A. Leonard Archer said recently in an interview with The Bahama Journal that there are many economic benefits that will come if the government signs on to CSME.


Mr. Archer said that by signing the CSME, The Bahamas would see "increased investments and increased trade with the rest of the Caribbean."


Minister Mitchell said in a recent speech that not signing on to the CSME would have serious negative implications for the country's social and economic infrastructure that would set The Bahamas "at a serious disadvantage as a country, rather than enhance our growth and development, in that, our access to the facilities and services provided by the Caribbean Development Bank, the University of the West Indies, the Caribbean Disaster and Emergency Response Agency and others, would be greatly diminished."


"We would be the only country in the Caribbean, apart from Cuba, that would be outside a regional trade bloc; and since trade blocs provide benefits for their members that are not provided to non-members, it could easily be reasoned that our tourism industry, our manufacturing industry, our beleaguered agriculture industry and even our financial services industry would be immediately and negatively affected, largely in terms of the relatively higher cost of doing business in The Bahamas that we would have invited by trying to stand alone," Minister Mitchell said.